[ALGTOP-L] ALGTOP-L Digest, Vol 492, Issue 1

Brayton Gray brayton at math.uic.edu
Mon Nov 8 12:43:59 EST 2010


Marty,

I loved point set topology when I was a sophomore. I was addicted to  
it. Pure logical inference. I have always enjoyed teaching it and  
think it is good for students in that it is very pure and is some  
sense simple and beautiful. How much of it you teach is another  
matter. I think a whole year of it is excessive. A semester of well  
chosen topics would be my choice. I almost tortured a graduate  
student once by insisting that she thoroughly understand Uhryson's  
lemma. A lot of very careful stuff. Most students would prefer knot  
theory.
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:00 PM, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:

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>    1. Re: undrgrad metric spaces (Ronnie Brown)
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>    3. Undergrad topology (Martin C. Tangora)
>    4. Re: Jill Clayburgh the mathematician (Amnon Neeman)
>    5. Re: Jill Clayburgh the mathematician (joseph neisendorfer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:21:31 +0000
> From: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [ALGTOP-L] undrgrad metric spaces
> To: algtop <algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu>
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> I just remembered the end of the  Frank Adams quote:
>
>
> `The plant produces flowers, and as it grows these are carried by an
> increasingly stronger  trunk. Then we forget about the flowers and  
> teach
> the trunk:  and it's all wood.'
>
>
> Ronnie
>
> (I also used the word `plain' instead of `plane' in my email.)
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:11:29 -0600
> From: "Martin C. Tangora" <tangora at uic.edu>
> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh the mathematician
> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20101107150801.02b84af8 at mail.uic.edu>
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> Thanks for the references to other films that discuss
> mathematics, physics, etc.
>
> My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the
> technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the
> film "It's my turn."  Sad to say, he reported that, in the scene
> where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily
> concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.
> I never went to see the film, but now at least I've seen the scene.
>
> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Jack Morava <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma, has
>>        passed away
>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>
>>  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-dead- 
>> oscar_n_779876.html
>>
>>>> From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:
>>
>> "The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism \partial
>> is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof in
>> these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear proof
>> is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It's My Turn
>> (Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)..."
>>
>> [This segment of the film is available at
>>
>>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg
>>
>> For the film itself, see
>>
>>   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/
>>
>> For something similar, though not as complete, see
>>
>> Antonia's Line, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/
>>
>> (toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to
>> Doug Ravenel for this reference.]
>>
>>       --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------
>>
>>                           (:+{(}
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100
>> From: Andrew Ranicki <andrew.ranicki at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies
>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>> Cc: Bob Oliver <bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr>, Jack Morava
>>        <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>
>>  "It's My Turn" is only one of the films featuring mathematicians on
>> Oliver Knill's wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies
>> http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/
>> However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama  
>> "Hawking"
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/ 
>> B0002W0YKW/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1289071748&sr=1-4
>> There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces  
>> Hawking
>> to the joys of topology on
>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv
>> and the text is on
>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt
>>
>> Andrew Ranicki
>
> Martin C. Tangora
> University of Illinois at Chicago
> tangora at uic.edu
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:16:07 -0600
> From: "Martin C. Tangora" <tangora at uic.edu>
> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Undergrad topology
> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
> Cc: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20101107151135.02afbab0 at mail.uic.edu>
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> Personal note:  General topology was the only
> topic of advanced undergraduate mathematics
> that I really liked (actually I learned it in grad school,
> from Dieudonne, who was at Northwestern then).
> So I am sad to hear that it is considered
> no longer of interest.  In fact I have a textbook
> half written, but, having retired from teaching,
> I have lost the incentive to finish it.  By explaining
> why the subject is "dry" you have nailed shut
> the coffin containing my book.  Frank Adams
> is closer when he refers to the subject as "flowers."
> Myself, I have always preferred flowers to trunks.
>
> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:10:10 +0000
>> From: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown at btinternet.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ALGTOP-L] undrgrad metric spaces
>> To: Brayton Gray <brayton at uic.edu>
>> Cc: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>
>>
>> On 01/11/2010 22:48, Brayton Gray wrote:
>>> I studied all that point set topology and agree it is good  
>>> discipline
>>> for careful logical thought. However I have found that the students
>>> today don't have the patience for it. It is rather dry after all.  
>>> And
>>> there is so much to learn.
>>
>> I agree. For this reason I have taught as part of a second year  
>> analysis
>> course a light account of the Hausdorff metric and fractals. This  
>> gave
>> two examples of metrics, namely that and the Eucidean metric, without
>> introducing the concept of metric space, and leaving them to make the
>> analogy. It gave lots of simple exercises, such as computing the
>> distance between a given square and triangle in the plain; it  
>> related to
>> terms of general interest and indeed wide knowledge, namely  
>> fractals and
>> chaos, but giving some real maths behind them; the course stated  
>> but did
>> not prove completeness of the fractal space; it allowed the use of
>> freely available fractal generating programs; it allowed a small
>> assignment to write an essay on `The importance of fractals?', where
>> they got all the information from books or the web, not from me, and
>> allowed the notion of judgement, in which we should give some  
>> experience
>> and  training; I also managed one year to set an insoluble problem  
>> for
>> homework, which prompted one student to write:`I was sorry the  
>> problem
>> was not soluble but felt I learned a lot from trying to solve it!'  
>> Emma
>> Moore later went on to  a successful PhD.
>>
>> Frank Adams once said: `The plant produces flowers, and as it grows
>> these are carried by an increasingly stronger  trunk. Then we  
>> teach the
>> trunk and forget about the flowers.'  I like the phrase`Advanced
>> mathematics from an elementary viewpoint': cut out all one can.
>>
>> The book R.P. Boas `A primer of real functions' is not easy but  
>> not at
>> all dry. I liked the various applications of the Baire category  
>> theorem
>> (which give point to the theorem) and many other things in the book.
>>
>> I also mention that once when giving a lecture to pupils and  
>> teachers on
>> `How mathematics gets into knots' which mentioned prime knots, a  
>> teacher
>> came up to me afterwards and said: `That is the first time in my
>> mathematical career that anyone has used the word analogy in  
>> relation to
>> mathematics!' That makes one think a bit. Reaction to this  
>> experience is
>> part of the point of my article `Promoting mathematics' in the EMS
>> Newsletter for June 2010; comments welcome!
>>
>> Ronnie
>> www.popmath.org.uk
>> www.bangor.ac.uk/r.brown
>
> Martin C. Tangora
> University of Illinois at Chicago
> tangora at uic.edu
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:44:34 +1100
> From: Amnon Neeman <Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh the mathematician
> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
> Message-ID: <9FFE3C30-34A4-4EAB-9E28-2426E1C864BC at anu.edu.au>
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> A correction: I've always been under the impression that Dick Gross
> (of Harvard) was the math adviser for the movie "It's My Turn". I've
> just checked with Dick and he confirms it. This leaves us wondering
> what Masley's role was.
>
>   Yours, Amnon
>
>
> On 08/11/2010, at 8:11 AM, Martin C. Tangora wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the references to other films that discuss
>> mathematics, physics, etc.
>>
>> My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the
>> technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the
>> film "It's my turn."  Sad to say, he reported that, in the scene
>> where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily
>> concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.
>> I never went to see the film, but now at least I've seen the scene.
>>
>> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: Jack Morava <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma, has
>>>       passed away
>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-dead- 
>>> oscar_n_779876.html
>>>
>>>> From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:
>>>
>>> "The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism \partial
>>> is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof in
>>> these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear  
>>> proof
>>> is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It's My  
>>> Turn
>>> (Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)..."
>>>
>>> [This segment of the film is available at
>>>
>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg
>>>
>>> For the film itself, see
>>>
>>>  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/
>>>
>>> For something similar, though not as complete, see
>>>
>>> Antonia's Line, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/
>>>
>>> (toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to
>>> Doug Ravenel for this reference.]
>>>
>>>      --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------
>>>
>>>                          (:+{(}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Ranicki <andrew.ranicki at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies
>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>> Cc: Bob Oliver <bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr>, Jack Morava
>>>       <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>>
>>> "It's My Turn" is only one of the films featuring mathematicians on
>>> Oliver Knill's wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies
>>> http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/
>>> However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama
>>> "Hawking"
>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/ 
>>> B0002W0YKW/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1289071748&sr=1-4
>>> There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces
>>> Hawking
>>> to the joys of topology on
>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv
>>> and the text is on
>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt
>>>
>>> Andrew Ranicki
>>
>> Martin C. Tangora
>> University of Illinois at Chicago
>> tangora at uic.edu
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:59:40 -0500
> From: joseph neisendorfer <jneisendorfer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh the mathematician
> To: Amnon Neeman <Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au>
> Cc: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
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> i just talked to my old friend john masley.  he says that he wrote  
> a column
> in a departmental newsletter where he quoted dick gross about  
> coaching jill
> clayburgh.  john masley was not
> the technical consultant.
> best wishes,
> joe neisendorfer
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Amnon Neeman  
> <Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au>wrote:
>
>> A correction: I've always been under the impression that Dick  
>> Gross (of
>> Harvard) was the math adviser for the movie "It's My Turn". I've just
>> checked with Dick and he confirms it. This leaves us wondering  
>> what Masley's
>> role was.
>>
>>  Yours, Amnon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/11/2010, at 8:11 AM, Martin C. Tangora wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks for the references to other films that discuss
>>> mathematics, physics, etc.
>>>
>>> My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the
>>> technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the
>>> film "It's my turn."  Sad to say, he reported that, in the scene
>>> where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily
>>> concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.
>>> I never went to see the film, but now at least I've seen the scene.
>>>
>>> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:
>>>
>>>  Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: Jack Morava <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma, has
>>>>      passed away
>>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-dead- 
>>>> oscar_n_779876.html
>>>>
>>>>  From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism \partial
>>>> is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof in
>>>> these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear  
>>>> proof
>>>> is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It's My  
>>>> Turn
>>>> (Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)..."
>>>>
>>>> [This segment of the film is available at
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg
>>>>
>>>> For the film itself, see
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/
>>>>
>>>> For something similar, though not as complete, see
>>>>
>>>> Antonia's Line, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/
>>>>
>>>> (toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to
>>>> Doug Ravenel for this reference.]
>>>>
>>>>     --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------
>>>>
>>>>                         (:+{(}
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100
>>>> From: Andrew Ranicki <andrew.ranicki at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies
>>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>>> Cc: Bob Oliver <bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr>, Jack Morava
>>>>      <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>>>
>>>> "It's My Turn" is only one of the films featuring mathematicians on
>>>> Oliver Knill's wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies
>>>> http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/
>>>> However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama  
>>>> "Hawking"
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/ 
>>>> B0002W0YKW/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1289071748&sr=1-4
>>>> There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces  
>>>> Hawking
>>>> to the joys of topology on
>>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv
>>>> and the text is on
>>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Ranicki
>>>>
>>>
>>> Martin C. Tangora
>>> University of Illinois at Chicago
>>> tangora at uic.edu
>>>
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> i just talked to my old friend john masley. =A0he says that he  
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> coaching j=
> ill clayburgh. =A0john masley was not<div>the technical  
> consultant.</div><d=
> iv>
> best wishes,</div><div>joe neisendorfer<br><br><div  
> class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
> n Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Amnon Neeman <span  
> dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
> =3D"mailto:Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au">Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au</ 
> a>&gt;</span> =
> wrote:<br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border- 
> left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">A correction: I&#39;ve always been  
> under th=
> e impression that Dick Gross (of Harvard) was the math adviser for  
> the movi=
> e &quot;It&#39;s My Turn&quot;. I&#39;ve just checked with Dick and  
> he conf=
> irms it. This leaves us wondering what Masley&#39;s role was.<br>
>
> <br>
> =A0Yours, Amnon<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 08/11/2010, at 8:11 AM, Martin C. Tangora wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border- 
> left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Thanks for the references to other films that discuss<br>
> mathematics, physics, etc.<br>
> <br>
> My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the<br>
> technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the<br>
> film &quot;It&#39;s my turn.&quot; =A0Sad to say, he reported that,  
> in the =
> scene<br>
> where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily<br>
> concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.<br>
> I never went to see the film, but now at least I&#39;ve seen the  
> scene.<br>
> <br>
> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l- 
> request at lists.lehigh.edu"=
>  target=3D"_blank">algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu</a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border- 
> left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> From: Jack Morava &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jack at math.jhu.edu"  
> target=3D"_blank=
> ">jack at math.jhu.edu</a>&gt;<br>
> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma,  
> has<br>
>  =A0 =A0 =A0passed away<br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu"  
> target=3D"_blank">algtop-l=
> @lists.lehigh.edu</a><br>
> <br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh- 
> dead-osc=
> ar_n_779876.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 
> 2010/11/0=
> 6/jill-clayburgh-dead-oscar_n_779876.html</a><br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border- 
> left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>>> From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:<br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> &quot;The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism  
> \partial<br>
> is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof  
> in<br>
> these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear  
> proof<br>
> is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It&#39;s  
> My Turn<b=
> r>
> (Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)...&quot;<br>
> <br>
> [This segment of the film is available at<br>
> <br>
> =A0<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DetbcKWEKnvg"  
> target=3D"_blan=
> k">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DetbcKWEKnvg</a><br>
> <br>
> For the film itself, see<br>
> <br>
> =A0<a href=3D"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/"  
> target=3D"_blank">http:=
> //www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/</a><br>
> <br>
> For something similar, though not as complete, see<br>
> <br>
> Antonia&#39;s Line, <a href=3D"http://www.imdb.com/title/ 
> tt0112379/" target=
> =3D"_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/</a><br>
> <br>
> (toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to<br>
> Doug Ravenel for this reference.]<br>
> <br>
>  =A0 =A0 --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------<br>
> <br>
>  =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (:+{(}<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 2<br>
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100<br>
> From: Andrew Ranicki &lt;<a  
> href=3D"mailto:andrew.ranicki at gmail.com" target=
> =3D"_blank">andrew.ranicki at gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies<br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu"  
> target=3D"_blank">algtop-l=
> @lists.lehigh.edu</a><br>
> Cc: Bob Oliver &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr"  
> target=3D"=
> _blank">bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr</a>&gt;, Jack Morava<br>
>  =A0 =A0 =A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jack at math.jhu.edu"  
> target=3D"_blank">jack=
> @math.jhu.edu</a>&gt;<br>
> <br>
> &quot;It&#39;s My Turn&quot; is only one of the films featuring  
> mathematici=
> ans on<br>
> Oliver Knill&#39;s wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies<br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/"  
> target=3D"_blank=
> ">http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/</a><br>
> However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama  
> &quot;Hawki=
> ng&quot;<br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/ 
> dp/B000=
> 2W0YKW/ref=3Dsr_1_4? 
> s=3Ddvd&amp;ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1289071748&amp;sr=3D1-4=
> " target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict- 
> Cumberbatc=
> h/dp/B0002W0YKW/ref=3Dsr_1_4? 
> s=3Ddvd&amp;ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1289071748&amp=
> ;sr=3D1-4</a><br>
>
> There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces  
> Hawking<br>
> to the joys of topology on<br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv"  
> target=3D"_b=
> lank">http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv</a><br>
> and the text is on<br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt"  
> target=3D"_b=
> lank">http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt</a><br>
> <br>
> Andrew Ranicki<br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Martin C. Tangora<br>
> University of Illinois at Chicago<br>
> <a href=3D"mailto:tangora at uic.edu"  
> target=3D"_blank">tangora at uic.edu</a><br=
>>
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