[ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh the mathematician

joseph neisendorfer jneisendorfer at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 09:59:40 EST 2010


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i just talked to my old friend john masley.  he says that he wrote a column
in a departmental newsletter where he quoted dick gross about coaching jill
clayburgh.  john masley was not
the technical consultant.
best wishes,
joe neisendorfer

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Amnon Neeman <Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au>wrote:

> A correction: I've always been under the impression that Dick Gross (of
> Harvard) was the math adviser for the movie "It's My Turn". I've just
> checked with Dick and he confirms it. This leaves us wondering what Masley's
> role was.
>
>  Yours, Amnon
>
>
>
> On 08/11/2010, at 8:11 AM, Martin C. Tangora wrote:
>
>  Thanks for the references to other films that discuss
>> mathematics, physics, etc.
>>
>> My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the
>> technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the
>> film "It's my turn."  Sad to say, he reported that, in the scene
>> where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily
>> concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.
>> I never went to see the film, but now at least I've seen the scene.
>>
>> At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu wrote:
>>
>>  Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: Jack Morava <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma, has
>>>      passed away
>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-dead-oscar_n_779876.html
>>>
>>>  From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:
>>>>
>>>
>>> "The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism \partial
>>> is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof in
>>> these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear proof
>>> is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It's My Turn
>>> (Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)..."
>>>
>>> [This segment of the film is available at
>>>
>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg
>>>
>>> For the film itself, see
>>>
>>>  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/
>>>
>>> For something similar, though not as complete, see
>>>
>>> Antonia's Line, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/
>>>
>>> (toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to
>>> Doug Ravenel for this reference.]
>>>
>>>     --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------
>>>
>>>                         (:+{(}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Ranicki <andrew.ranicki at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies
>>> To: algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu
>>> Cc: Bob Oliver <bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr>, Jack Morava
>>>      <jack at math.jhu.edu>
>>>
>>> "It's My Turn" is only one of the films featuring mathematicians on
>>> Oliver Knill's wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies
>>> http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/
>>> However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama "Hawking"
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/B0002W0YKW/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1289071748&sr=1-4
>>> There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces Hawking
>>> to the joys of topology on
>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv
>>> and the text is on
>>> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt
>>>
>>> Andrew Ranicki
>>>
>>
>> Martin C. Tangora
>> University of Illinois at Chicago
>> tangora at uic.edu
>>
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i just talked to my old friend john masley. =A0he says that he wrote a colu=
mn in a departmental newsletter where he quoted dick gross about coaching j=
ill clayburgh. =A0john masley was not<div>the technical consultant.</div><d=
iv>
best wishes,</div><div>joe neisendorfer<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Amnon Neeman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au">Amnon.Neeman at anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">A correction: I&#39;ve always been under th=
e impression that Dick Gross (of Harvard) was the math adviser for the movi=
e &quot;It&#39;s My Turn&quot;. I&#39;ve just checked with Dick and he conf=
irms it. This leaves us wondering what Masley&#39;s role was.<br>

<br>
=A0Yours, Amnon<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 08/11/2010, at 8:11 AM, Martin C. Tangora wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for the references to other films that discuss<br>
mathematics, physics, etc.<br>
<br>
My colleague UIC number theorist John Masley was the<br>
technical director (i.e. mathematical consultant) for the<br>
film &quot;It&#39;s my turn.&quot; =A0Sad to say, he reported that, in the =
scene<br>
where she teaches the diagram chase, she was primarily<br>
concerned about whether her behind looked good on camera.<br>
I never went to see the film, but now at least I&#39;ve seen the scene.<br>
<br>
At 11:00 AM 11/7/2010, <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu"=
 target=3D"_blank">algtop-l-request at lists.lehigh.edu</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:14 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Jack Morava &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jack at math.jhu.edu" target=3D"_blank=
">jack at math.jhu.edu</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Jill Clayburgh, who proved the Snake Lemma, has<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0passed away<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu" target=3D"_blank">algtop-l=
@lists.lehigh.edu</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-dead-osc=
ar_n_779876.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/0=
6/jill-clayburgh-dead-oscar_n_779876.html</a><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>From C. Weibel, An Introduction to Homological Algebra, p. 11:<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
&quot;The key tool in constructing the connecting homomorphism \partial<br>
is our next result, the Snake Lemma. We will not print the proof in<br>
these notes, because it is best done visually. In fact, a clear proof<br>
is given by Jill Clayburgh at the beginning of the movie It&#39;s My Turn<b=
r>
(Rastar-Martin Elfand Studios, 1980)...&quot;<br>
<br>
[This segment of the film is available at<br>
<br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DetbcKWEKnvg" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DetbcKWEKnvg</a><br>
<br>
For the film itself, see<br>
<br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.imdb.com/title/tt0080936/</a><br>
<br>
For something similar, though not as complete, see<br>
<br>
Antonia&#39;s Line, <a href=3D"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112379/</a><br>
<br>
(toward the end of Scene 5 on the DVD); thanks to<br>
Doug Ravenel for this reference.]<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 --------- Ars Longa, Vita Brevis -------<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (:+{(}<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:39:42 +0100<br>
From: Andrew Ranicki &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andrew.ranicki at gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">andrew.ranicki at gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [ALGTOP-L] Mathematics in the Movies<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:algtop-l at lists.lehigh.edu" target=3D"_blank">algtop-l=
@lists.lehigh.edu</a><br>
Cc: Bob Oliver &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr" target=3D"=
_blank">bobol at math.univ-paris13.fr</a>&gt;, Jack Morava<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jack at math.jhu.edu" target=3D"_blank">jack=
@math.jhu.edu</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
&quot;It&#39;s My Turn&quot; is only one of the films featuring mathematici=
ans on<br>
Oliver Knill&#39;s wonderful website Mathematics in the Movies<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/mathmovies/</a><br>
However, there is one film not yet there: the 2004 BBC TV drama &quot;Hawki=
ng&quot;<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/B000=
2W0YKW/ref=3Dsr_1_4?s=3Ddvd&amp;ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1289071748&amp;sr=3D1-4=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawking-DVD-Benedict-Cumberbatc=
h/dp/B0002W0YKW/ref=3Dsr_1_4?s=3Ddvd&amp;ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1289071748&amp=
;sr=3D1-4</a><br>

There is a clip of the scene in which Roger Penrose introduces Hawking<br>
to the joys of topology on<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.wmv</a><br>
and the text is on<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/surgery/hawking.txt</a><br>
<br>
Andrew Ranicki<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Martin C. Tangora<br>
University of Illinois at Chicago<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:tangora at uic.edu" target=3D"_blank">tangora at uic.edu</a><br=
>
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